Poll: *** The official Mac Studio thread (it has Apple Silicon, lots of ports and everything!) ***

Are you going to buy an Apple Studio?


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I did that recently.

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As you can see, I returned them. Performance was utterly awful. Carbon Copy Cloner was estimating 27 hours for the initial backup. I tried different ports and cables on my Studio.

I've got UGreen enclosures (Sabrent PCIe controller) and several different SSDs (ranging from DRAM-less QLC to WD black), performance has always been exactly what I was expecting to get. I'm never buying Orico products as I've always had an awful experience with them.
 
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I'm never buying Orico products as I've always had an awful experience with them.
I don’t know if it was the enclosure or the ssd itself that was the cause of the slowdown but as you see, I just returned them both because I couldn’t be arsed to investigate further at the time. I bought the Orico enclosure because that specific one was mentioned on LTT.

I’ve got a couple of 2.5” UGReen caddies and they’ve always been good so perhaps I’ll look again.

My aim is for a 2Tb drive attached to the Studio so I can do daily CCC backups. I do the same with my iMac and my MBA so it makes sense to do it on the Studio as well. That’s as well as Time Machine, of course.

/edit - would this be a decent enclosure?

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I don’t know if it was the enclosure or the ssd itself that was the cause of the slowdown but as you see, I just returned them both because I couldn’t be arsed to investigate further at the time. I bought the Orico enclosure because that specific one was mentioned on LTT.

I’ve got a couple of 2.5” UGReen caddies and they’ve always been good so perhaps I’ll look again.

My aim is for a 2Tb drive attached to the Studio so I can do daily CCC backups. I do the same with my iMac and my MBA so it makes sense to do it on the Studio as well. That’s as well as Time Machine, of course.

/edit - would this be a decent enclosure?

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I've got an older revision but this looks like a newer one. There's a cheaper one as well (looks to be the same unit but only with type C cable and about £8 cheaper with a voucher).
 
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There's a cheaper one as well (looks to be the same unit but only with type C cable and about £8 cheaper with a voucher).
Ahh yes, I see. I've just ordered it. I'm away for a few days so will go nvme hunting when I get back.

As per tom's hardware, the big negative is sustained write performance
Good spot. I won't buy another one of those then ;)
 
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I used Prime Day to procure myself an external SSD enclosure and 2TB M.2 drive. I went for the WD Black SN850X SSD and the ROG Strix Arion M.2 NVME enclosure. The combo is a beast.
 
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I used Prime Day to procure myself an external SSD enclosure and 2TB M.2 drive. I went for the WD Black SN850X SSD and the ROG Strix Arion M.2 NVME enclosure. The combo is a beast.
Interesting, does the SSD with the heatsink fit in the enclosure or did you get the one without?
 
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I got this combo ready for when i get a new Mac. I felt 5000mb/s is plenty fast enough for an external storage, the enclosure can actually handle double that (on paper). 2TB + case for £100.

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That's an even worse drive than the one @Feek tried - under sustained writes it can drop as low as 100MBps - that's slower than most hard drives!

Again no DRAM cache (but this time paired with even worse QLC NAND)
 
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That's an even worse drive than the one @Feek tried - under sustained writes it can drop as low as 100MBps - that's slower than most hard drives!

Again no DRAM cache (but this time paired with even worse QLC NAND)
Will relegate that to something else then.

What would you recommend?
 
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Any of these should be good choices, as all have DRAM

Crucial P5 Plus is what I use for my PS5, as was recommended as having DRAM/good NAND and often on offer.
(Even when all of the caching is exhausted, it still delivers 1.8GBps)


(Also don't be tempted by PCI-E 5.0 NVME drives - they run too hot and throttle at the minute - assuming there are even enclosures that would support the faster speeds)


My basket at OcUK:

Total: £721.86 (includes delivery: £7.99)​




There's a decent list here that details a lot of the Specs of common SSDs, so you can search for DRAM=yes, NAND type = (not QLC), and see various notes on different products
 
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Any of these should be good choices, as all have DRAM

Crucial P5 Plus is what I use for my PS5, as was recommended as having DRAM/good NAND and often on offer.
(Even when all of the caching is exhausted, it still delivers 1.8GBps)


(Also don't be tempted by PCI-E 5.0 NVME drives - they run too hot and throttle at the minute - assuming there are even enclosures that would support the faster speeds)


My basket at OcUK:

Total: £721.86 (includes delivery: £7.99)​




There's a decent list here that details a lot of the Specs of common SSDs, so you can search for DRAM=yes, NAND type = (not QLC), and see various notes on different products

What about the

Samsung 990 PRO 2TB PCIe 4.0 (up to 7450 MB/s) NVMe M.2 (2280) Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (MZ-V9P2T0BW)​

?
 
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