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will i need a new mobo for this chip?
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AMD Zen 5 rumours
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Caporegime
You won't, no...
Soldato
Probably not, but you will likely need a BIOS update.
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i can deal with.....i think 
Soldato
I suspect the 40% number is true but it will be for AI related tasks, I doubt we will get that in games.
Caporegime
Yeah i just can't see 40% being right, for Games or Cinebench... i'm sticking with around 20%, both clocks and IPC together, so performance... that's a safe bet.
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From the leaks, it looks like AVX and INT performance is getting a big boost so things like Cinebench could get a 40%+ bump. Most things will probably see < 20%. CPU limited games that use AVX could also do well, but most are not that CPU heavy. Just fixing all the Zen4 security issues could make Zen5 5-10% faster than Zen4.
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all i care about is gaming performance, its that which will decide if i get one
What issues?
I don’t remember the names, but the last one was to do with the pre-fetch. The mitigation updates add up.
I'm hoping they might reduced the 'delay' before the X3D chips appear, simply because the Zen4 X3D parts are likely to be better gaming performers than the Zen5 non-X3D parts which won't exactly encourage upgrades.
New rumours claim AMD increases base cache amounts in all Ryzen 9k SKUs, so x3D might not be needed or won't be as much of a jump in gaming anymore.
It will not be significant increase if it's not vcache, takes up too much space, memory stopped scaling ages ago, am5 is a tiny chip and ryzen 9000 is on a slightly better node than 7000, ergo there is no space for a major improvement in cache for non cache models
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Time will show what it will actually do, but that could be part of the "40%" increase, as supposedly it's all levels of cache increase. Seems they used silicon savings on lower process to cram in more cache instead of more cores.
Anyway, just a rumour at this stage, not much confirmed info out there yet.
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Caporegime
ChipHell are one of the ones who usually get it right.
Strix Halo.
AI APU
Zen 5 / RDNA 3.5.
16c 32t.
The GPU is much more interesting but lets go with the CPU first.
ST R23: 2480, that's 20.5% faster than a 7950X
MT R23: 42000, that's 10% faster than a 7950X
Impressive stuff for an APU but don't expect the Desktop variant to be much better.
NPU (AI engine) 45 to 50 TOPS
GPU:
40 RDNA 3.5 CU's (RX 6750 XT)
Memory: 256Bit LPDDR5X Bandwidth -500 GB/s
Time SPy: 13,000 ( RTX 4060 Ti 16GB = 13,365)
Port Royal: 6,500
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RTX 4060: 6,050
RTX 4060 Ti 16GB: 7,800
RX 7700 XT: 9,039
RX 7800 XT: 10,272
My score 24/7 score RX 7800 XT: 11,523.
The iGPU is impressive, its a Desktop 4060 Ti. AMD have finally made a properly powerful APU.
videocardz.com
Strix Halo.
AI APU
Zen 5 / RDNA 3.5.
16c 32t.
The GPU is much more interesting but lets go with the CPU first.
ST R23: 2480, that's 20.5% faster than a 7950X
MT R23: 42000, that's 10% faster than a 7950X
Impressive stuff for an APU but don't expect the Desktop variant to be much better.
NPU (AI engine) 45 to 50 TOPS
GPU:
40 RDNA 3.5 CU's (RX 6750 XT)
Memory: 256Bit LPDDR5X Bandwidth -500 GB/s
Time SPy: 13,000 ( RTX 4060 Ti 16GB = 13,365)
Port Royal: 6,500
-------------------
RTX 4060: 6,050
RTX 4060 Ti 16GB: 7,800
RX 7700 XT: 9,039
RX 7800 XT: 10,272
My score 24/7 score RX 7800 XT: 11,523.
The iGPU is impressive, its a Desktop 4060 Ti. AMD have finally made a properly powerful APU.
AMD "Strix Halo" Zen5 & RDNA3.5 premium APU rumors take shape - VideoCardz.com
AMD first ultra-high-end APU with 16 Zen5 cores and 40 RDNA3.5 CUs is said to feature LPDDR5X memory Recent leaks and speculation were put together by Chiphell forum member. AMD is said to be launching its Strix Halo APUs next year. It’s one of the most interesting hardware releases from AMD in...
videocardz.com
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That memory bandwidth is nice! Desktop will get nowhere near that, even if they did quad channel (not going to happen). Hope they do a desktop APU with on-package RAM, will be better than the non-APU versions.ChipHell are one of the ones who usually get it right.
Strix Halo.
AI APU
Zen 5 / RDNA 3.5.
16c 32t.
The GPU is much more interesting but lets go with the CPU first.
ST R23: 2480, that's 20.5% faster than a 7950X
MT R23: 42000, that's 10% faster than a 7950X
Impressive stuff for an APU but don't expect the Desktop variant to be much better.
NPU (AI engine) 45 to 50 TOPS
GPU:
40 RDNA 3.5 CU's (RX 6750 XT)
Memory: 256Bit LPDDR5X Bandwidth -500 GB/s
Time SPy: 13,000 ( RTX 4060 Ti 16GB = 13,365)
Port Royal: 6,500
-------------------
RTX 4060: 6,050
RTX 4060 Ti 16GB: 7,800
RX 7700 XT: 9,039
RX 7800 XT: 10,272
My score 24/7 score RX 7800 XT: 11,523.
The iGPU is impressive, its a Desktop 4060 Ti. AMD have finally made a properly powerful APU.
AMD "Strix Halo" Zen5 & RDNA3.5 premium APU rumors take shape - VideoCardz.com
AMD first ultra-high-end APU with 16 Zen5 cores and 40 RDNA3.5 CUs is said to feature LPDDR5X memory Recent leaks and speculation were put together by Chiphell forum member. AMD is said to be launching its Strix Halo APUs next year. It’s one of the most interesting hardware releases from AMD in...
Maybe but 7800X3D can be had under £300 at times. Paid just under for mine.
Soldato
Yep, still that price today, can't argue against it really.
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Where is it sub 300?