LincStation N1: World's First 6-bay all SSD Unraid NAS

Hostile_18 · 20 Dec 2023 at 12:45

Currently leaving Indiegogo and shipping to backers on now. An all SSD NAS with Unraid basic licence for £240. Backer campaign ends in two days, it should be available at retail first half of next year.

Thoughts? Ordered one myself for the living room as a media server.

LincStation N1 NAS

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Deleted member 77746 · 21 Dec 2023 at 23:08

Nice. Should improve things for central storage.

Hostile_18 · 22 Dec 2023 at 00:00

Populating wasn't cheap lol. I already had two 4tb Crucial MXs, + ordered 4x 4tb Lexar NM790's to go along with it for £720. They are gen 4 with 7400MBs potentially. Obviously in this rig they will be running gen 3x1. Honestly it wasn't much more than a "cheap" gen 3 drive and gives me more flexibility in the future if other manufactuers release faster SSD NAS's and I wish to upgrade, I can just move them along and benefit from the speed increase.

Deleted member 77746 · 22 Dec 2023 at 00:02

Hostile_18 said:
Populating wasn't cheap lol. I already had two 4tb Crucial MXs, + ordered 4x 4tb Lexar NM790's to go along with it for £720. They are gen 4 with 7400MBs potentially. Obviously in this rig they will be running gen 3x1. Honestly it wasn't much more than a "cheap" gen 3 drive and gives me more flexibility in the future if other manufactuers release faster SSD NAS's and I wish to upgrade, I can just move them along and benefit from the speed increase.

So you don’t get the SSD drives with it? OOF that’s an expensive NAS.

Hostile_18 · 22 Dec 2023 at 00:11

GaryTheSnail said:
So you don’t get the SSD drives with it? OOF that’s an expensive NAS.

I mean for the price of the unit itself its actually one of the cheapest ones lol. Synology/Qnap ones that come fully populated with the space I have with "just" traditional hard drives come in at around £1000-£1250. I'm lucky I already had the two 4tb ones lol. The is another Flash NAS that comes in at £415 for the 6 drive and £750 for a 12 drive, but it looks more like a PS2 than something for an adult.

So if I take out the 4tb Parity drive, that should leave 20tb free. That will be enough space to last me forever... or at least a very long time! lol.

Huggie86 · 22 Dec 2023 at 20:49

Hostile_18 said:
Populating wasn't cheap lol. I already had two 4tb Crucial MXs, + ordered 4x 4tb Lexar NM790's to go along with it for £720. They are gen 4 with 7400MBs potentially. Obviously in this rig they will be running gen 3x1. Honestly it wasn't much more than a "cheap" gen 3 drive and gives me more flexibility in the future if other manufactuers release faster SSD NAS's and I wish to upgrade, I can just move them along and benefit from the speed increase.

Where did you get them for that price? I can only see them for 200 each today.

sja360 · 22 Dec 2023 at 20:53

Its actually not badly priced for a 6 bay nas with 10 gbp network and unraid basic included

Hostile_18 · 22 Dec 2023 at 20:55

Huggie86 said:
Where did you get them for that price? I can only see them for 200 each today.

The offer was from a well known competitor via the marketplace. There was a code "sale15" that finished last night. Sure it will come back again.

Huggie86 · 22 Dec 2023 at 23:06

Hostile_18 said:
The offer was from a well known competitor via the marketplace. There was a code "sale15" that finished last night. Sure it will come back again.

Ahh Okay, Thanks for the info! You'll have to update us with your impressions once the system arrives.

jigger · 23 Dec 2023 at 16:49

It’s nice, but really needed a 40 gigabit+ nic to make sense.

Hostile_18 · 23 Dec 2023 at 16:58

Teh

jigger said:
It’s nice, but really needed a 40 gigabit+ nic to make sense.

But then wouldn't you be hampered by the PCIE lanes and then by the CPU. At that point it would be a totally different product, wattage and price point. That being said leaves a lot of room for other products in the range, to prioritise different things.

Temi_D · 23 Dec 2023 at 19:03

Currently in the market for a new DIY NAS, this looks interesting...but from what I can see, connectivity seems to be a bit of a dissappointment. 2.5GbE for an all SSD NAS seems a bit silly, it will be extremely bottlenecked. Also the CPU seems a bit lean for VMs/Containers.

Deleted member 77746 · 23 Dec 2023 at 20:04

Temi_D said:
Currently in the market for a new DIY NAS, this looks interesting...but from what I can see, connectivity seems to be a bit of a dissappointment. 2.5GbE for an all SSD NAS seems a bit silly, it will be extremely bottlenecked. Also the CPU seems a bit lean for VMs/Containers.

Should have been a 10Gbps port (2 at least) but I don’t know the cost of adding two of these would be.

Maybe they might release a pro model or something later down the line.

Hostile_18 · 23 Dec 2023 at 20:14

750MBs would be the max speed for 1 Lane gen 3 wouldn't it? And 2.5gbe would give max speed of 312MBs. Still faster than traditional hard drives but definitely performance left on the table.

That said if you take out the Unraid licence this costs £200. £250 cheaper than the nearest competitor. So it comes down to if the value overrides the concessions. I think this is primarily a media server, rather than something you'd be reading and writing to daily.

Temi_D · 23 Dec 2023 at 20:47

Personally, I'd be happy with just a single 10GbE port. Having (up to) 6 SSDs fighting for (realistically) ~280MB/s of bandwidth seems like a missed opportunity. Apart from access times, it isn't much different from a traditional NAS seeing as recent HDDs peak at ~270MB/s

Hoping storaxa can sort out their issues, also, this Aoostar looks pretty interesting: https://aoostar.com/blogs/news/aoos...orts-led-screen-and-a-ryzen-7-5800u-processor

Hostile_18 · 23 Dec 2023 at 21:07

Temi_D said:
Personally, I'd be happy with just a single 10GbE port. Having (up to) 6 SSDs fighting for (realistically) ~280MB/s of bandwidth seems like a missed opportunity. Apart from access times, it isn't much different from a traditional NAS seeing as recent HDDs peak at ~270MB/s

Hoping storaxa can sort out their issues, also, this Aoostar looks pretty interesting: https://aoostar.com/blogs/news/aoos...orts-led-screen-and-a-ryzen-7-5800u-processor

That looks good also. The concessions there are an AMD CPU (Intel is much better for transcoding) and will be a higher running cost. Still it packs a lot of features, all depends on the price as well, ultimately.

Donnie Fisher · 24 Dec 2023 at 08:17

For a home nas like this box seems marketed, what use actually needs 10gig networking?

Beyond initial population of data, what sort of streaming would need that sort of speed ?

Deleted member 77746 · 24 Dec 2023 at 08:29

Donnie Fisher said:
For a home nas like this box seems marketed, what use actually needs 10gig networking?

Beyond initial population of data, what sort of streaming would need that sort of speed ?

For people who are transferring large files between systems. It’s only a small percentage but it’s needed.

Hostile_18 · 24 Dec 2023 at 08:37

GaryTheSnail said:
For people who are transferring large files between systems. It’s only a small percentage but it’s needed.

But if its only a small percentage, would it not be better to keep costs down for the majority? With it being SSD as well I'm not sure how many would be storing many of their full 4k disc remuxs.

Don't get me wrong I'd rather have it than not, but I don't think its a deal breaker given the price point. I don't think they are making much margin on these units.

Deleted member 77746 · 24 Dec 2023 at 08:39

Hostile_18 said:
But if its only a small percentage, would it not be better to keep costs down for the majority? With it being SSD as well I'm not sure how many would be storing many of their full 4k disc remuxs.

Don't get me wrong I'd rather have it than not, but I don't think its a deal breaker given the price point. I don't think they are making much margin on these units.

No not at all not if they fetch two models out. Maybe real world scenarios they may have decided it’s not a real issue yet so just left the 10G off for now.