am4 or am5

[urmom]

Hi i currently have a 10 gen cpu + 3060 8 gb build, i wanted to get either the 5800X3D or the 7800X3D.

It would be mostly for CS2 at 1080p and 240 hz (AAA support = +), the goal is to get a steady 250+ fps (1% lows not far).

I have a promotion price for the 5800X3D at 215 euros and a price for the other at 400 euros.

Is it worth for these needs to go am5 or should i go with am4?

Also could i keep my 3060 8 gb (NON TI) with either of these CPU? for example on low game settings. If not i thought a 7900 GRE, 4070 super or 7800 XT.

Pls provide a good motherboard depending on your answer thx

 

[dfour]

I would go with AM5 as it a new build with the 7800x3d. Keep your 3060 and unless you find it start to strugge with games just enjoy.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6JX-AS) = £209.99

Total: £209.99 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[urmom]

I would go with AM5 as it a new build with the 7800x3d. Keep your 3060 and unless you find it start to strugge with games just enjoy.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6JX-AS) = £209.99

Total: £209.99 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Thx, i live in france its 174.99 + 28.99 delivery, do you know if i will have to pay another tax when i receive it? If yes could i go with the B650 for 220 euros?

 

[Tetras]

Thx, i live in france its 174.99 + 28.99 delivery, do you know if i will have to pay another tax when i receive it? If yes could i go with the B650 for 220 euros?

There are lots of choices in France, I'd just buy something without the worry of paying taxes.

 

[urmom]

There are lots of choices in France, I'd just buy something without the worry of paying taxes.

hello yes thats why i found that B650 on amazon as i saw there could be 20% tax, but will it suit the 7800X3D if its not the B650E-F?
I will try to game with my 3060, if it doesnt work well do you agree with a 7900 GRE, 4070 super or 7800 XT for 1080p CS2?

 

[Tetras]

but will it suit the 7800X3D if its not the B650E-F?

I doubt a 7800X3D would throttle playing games, even with A620. The B650E-F is usually recommended because it is one of the cheapest motherboards with PCI-E 5.0 graphics.

I will try to game with my 3060, if it doesnt work well do you agree with a 7900 GRE, 4070 super or 7800 XT for 1080p CS2?

This is only one review, so I'd check more (and it is always liable to change with driver updates), but the answer appears to be a 4070 Super:

Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Pulse Review

The Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Pulse emerges as the best GRE model released today, offering exceptional value at AMD's MSRP of $550. Outperforming the RX 4070 Super in raster, it operates whisper-quiet, catering to gamers and enthusiasts seeking top-tier performance without exceeding their budget.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[urmom]

I doubt a 7800X3D would throttle playing games, even with A620. The B650E-F is usually recommended because it is one of the cheapest motherboards with PCI-E 5.0 graphics.


This is only one review, so I'd check more (and it is always liable to change with driver updates), but the answer appears to be a 4070 Super:

Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Pulse Review

The Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE Pulse emerges as the best GRE model released today, offering exceptional value at AMD's MSRP of $550. Outperforming the RX 4070 Super in raster, it operates whisper-quiet, catering to gamers and enthusiasts seeking top-tier performance without exceeding their budget.

www.techpowerup.com

i will go for the E-F then its only 50 euros more, i made a list from _pcpartpicker_ after some research could you confirm me its ok? https://************.com/list/z3JMYN

It says "The Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the KOLINK Classic Power 700 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply does not have any available. This connector is used to supply additional current. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands or extreme overclocking may require it"

 

[urmom]

i guess if you cant access site i write it down:

CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$389.99	Amazon
CPU Cooler	Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler	$35.90	Amazon
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard	$269.99	Amazon
Memory	TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory	$106.99	Amazon
Storage	-	-	-
Video Card	MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card	$629.00	MSI
Case	KOLINK OBSERVATORY RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	No Prices Available	-
Power Supply	KOLINK Classic Power 700 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	No Prices Available	-
Operating System	-	-	-
Monitor	Asus TUF Gaming VG249QM1A 23.8" 1920 x 1080 270 Hz Monitor

 

[mickyflinn]

Please don't get a kolink power supply get something gold rated with a 7 to 10 year warranty.

Don't cheap out on a PSU.

Also take a look at Zotac models of the 4070 as they usually come with a 5 year warranty if registered within 30 days otherwise it's 3 years.

 

[urmom]

Please don't get a kolink power supply get something gold rated with a 7 to 10 year warranty.

Don't cheap out on a PSU.

Also take a look at Zotac models of the 4070 as they usually come with a 5 year warranty if registered within 30 days otherwise it's 3 years.

i'm not used to that warranty thing, i found a Zotac 4070 twin edge its 90 cheaper and the warranty is the same (2 to 3 years) at least from amazon, i would go for the super.

That PSU is the one i already got, the estimated wattage is 491 but there is that worrying message about the motherboard's additional 4-pin ATX power connector, is it out of the question to use it with that setup?

 

[dfour]

Kolink say

The Kolink Classic Power 700W power supply at a glance:

- 648W and 54A on a 12V rail


- 80 PLUS bronze certificate for high efficiency


- ATX form factor with a length of 160 mm


- Modern look with flat black cables


- Connectors: 1x 24-pin, 1x 4+4-pin, 2x 6+2-pin, 6x SATA & 2x Molex

Connectors:


Motherboard: 1x 20 + 4-pin ATX12V / EPS12V


CPU: 1x 4 + 4-pin ATX12V/EPS12V
It should be the the atx connector the motherboard is talking about. It should be fine its just not a very good quality PSU.

 

[mickyflinn]

i'm not used to that warranty thing, i found a Zotac 4070 twin edge its 90 cheaper and the warranty is the same (2 to 3 years) at least from amazon, i would go for the super.

That PSU is the one i already got, the estimated wattage is 491 but there is that worrying message about the motherboard's additional 4-pin ATX power connector, is it out of the question to use it with that setup?

Ok I ment Zotac 4070 super but if you only get 3 years then go with what you want.

As for the PSU it's still a rubbish unit with only a 2 year warranty so if you want to risk your new parts then so be it , you've been warned.

 

[urmom]

Ok I ment Zotac 4070 super but if you only get 3 years then go with what you want.

As for the PSU it's still a rubbish unit with only a 2 year warranty so if you want to risk your new parts then so be it , you've been warned.

no dont want to risk i was just asking, i just learned that even if it works it can reduce components lifespan.
I found a Corsair RM750x 80 PLUS Gold 750 Watts is it ok? Or what else would you suggest?
About Zotac gpu amazon out of stock and i saw some complain about noise so i will spend 100 more for MSI

 

[dfour]

The rm750x usints are very good although I would try and get a native ATX v.3 as your going with a 4070 super like a

MSI MAG A750GL 750W 80 Plus Gold ATX 3.0 PCIE5 Modular Power Supply​

 

[urmom]

The rm750x usints are very good although I would try and get a native ATX v.3 as your going with a 4070 super like a

MSI MAG A750GL 750W 80 Plus Gold ATX 3.0 PCIE5 Modular Power Supply​

i found MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 Power Supply, 750W 80 Plus Gold, Fully Modular, ATX 3.0, PCIe 5.0 GPU Support, 120mm FDB Fan, LLC Full-Bridge, Black Flat Cables but its 40 euros cheaper is it normal?

 

[dfour]

yes. Its a very good unit and your not paying the the corsair name.

 

[urmom]

yes. Its a very good unit and your not paying the the corsair name.

thx

 

[urmom]

I doubt a 7800X3D would throttle playing games, even with A620. The B650E-F is usually recommended because it is one of the cheapest motherboards with PCI-E 5.0 graphics.

i did some research and found a "ASUS PRIME B650-PLUS ATX Motherboard, DDR5, PCIe 5.0 M.2 Support, 2.5Gb Ethernet, DisplayPort, HDMI, SATA 6 Gbps, USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C, Front USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C, BIOS Flashback, USB4 Support and Arua Sync" for 100 euros less. It also says PCIe 5.0 is that the same thing or a lesser version of what you say?

 

[Tetras]

It also says PCIe 5.0 is that the same thing or a lesser version of what you say?

It has 1x PCI-E 5.0 M.2 slot.

The primary PCI-E (graphics) slot is PCI-E 4.0.

To be clear: I was not saying you need PCI-E 5.0 graphics, I was just telling you a reason why the B650E-F is often recommended.

 

[mickyflinn]

i did some research and found a "ASUS PRIME B650-PLUS ATX Motherboard, DDR5, PCIe 5.0 M.2 Support, 2.5Gb Ethernet, DisplayPort, HDMI, SATA 6 Gbps, USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C, Front USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C, BIOS Flashback, USB4 Support and Arua Sync" for 100 euros less. It also says PCIe 5.0 is that the same thing or a lesser version of what you say?

It's a budget board but adequate.

Take a look at the

ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS​