Varjo Aero

wickfut · 12 Dec 2023 at 11:30

does that demo I posted play at a really low resolution for you?
I've reinstalled windows. I've deleted my entire steam game library etc just to make sure it wasn't any stray files from my Reverb install.
Hellblade also does it. It seems to change the entire SteamVR menu/background screen to a low res. Very strange. Worked fine on the Crystal a few weeks back.

Littlenose · 12 Dec 2023 at 11:38

I'll give it a whirl after work this eve and report back.

ImMrChris · 12 Dec 2023 at 12:20

wickfut said:
does that demo I posted play at a really low resolution for you?
I've reinstalled windows. I've deleted my entire steam game library etc just to make sure it wasn't any stray files from my Reverb install.
Hellblade also does it. It seems to change the entire SteamVR menu/background screen to a low res. Very strange. Worked fine on the Crystal a few weeks back.

it does even with everything maxxed out it looks crap :s

wickfut · 12 Dec 2023 at 12:29

nice one. Now I know it isn't just my headset or windows install.

Littlenose · 12 Dec 2023 at 18:19

wickfut said:
nice one. Now I know it isn't just my headset or windows install.

yep, I can confirm that it was nasty looking in my headset too

wickfut · 12 Dec 2023 at 21:14

Very strange. I used that Surge demo to show people VR too. Ahh well. Back to Titans of Space then. (which looks fantastic if you haven't tried it)

Littlenose · 13 Dec 2023 at 08:20

Cheers for the heads up, I'll take alook at Titans of Space this eve.

kevman · 13 Dec 2023 at 10:02

Finally recieved shipping notice for mine.
Think there must have been a glut of orders after the xr-4 was released adding delays. Should get it before chrimbo though

wickfut · 13 Dec 2023 at 13:18

kevman said:
Finally recieved shipping notice for mine.
Think there must have been a glut of orders after the xr-4 was released adding delays. Should get it before chrimbo though

You too will soon be enjoying the panic as you watch your headset shipping state "Out for Delivery" while in Hong Kong.

ImMrChris · 13 Dec 2023 at 22:00

I swear this Aero gets better the more you use it! I just did a night race in iracing I was fully immersed I nearly flinched a couple of times once it’s dialled in and you get used to it it’s amazing

wickfut · 17 Dec 2023 at 01:55

A discovery. Sorry if you already knew this.
Setting the PPD in Varjo Base puts a limit on the highest resolution the headset renders.
I realised this when I was playing Radial-G and noticing the cockpit didn't look as sharp as on the Crystal, even with the same resolution setting. (I was running 35PPD)
I increased the PPD to 39PPD while keeping the same resolution I was running with 35PPD and it looked much sharper and actually as good as the Crystal. (but the Crystal runs better at that resolution?)
So lower PPD settings won't allow SteamVR rendering resolution to go higher than it even though it's chewing up more FPS. Best to run at 39PPD and lower the resolution down rather than run low and increase.
weird that

sgavan · 17 Dec 2023 at 05:06

Yeah it's one thing that takes a bit of getting used to as there are essentially two resolutions that need to be set I find setting highest in the Varjo base software, along with capping at 45fps, then in the steam VR app changing the resolution in the settings to the best for the gpu, generally for me seems to be around 70-90 and still looks great. I also set motion smoothing on if the app supports it.

wickfut · 17 Dec 2023 at 11:26

Yeah , strange way of doing it. Must have something to do with lower end GPU's not having the memory/bandwidth for the higher resolutions or something.
It's like having a 4k monitor, setting your windows resolution to 1080p and the game to render at 4k but windows downscales the game to 1080p and then upscales the 1080p image back to the 4k monitor resolution.

kevman · 18 Dec 2023 at 23:09

Aero arrived today - been pretty impressed with it so far. The fov is not such a big a deal as i thought it would be.

The motion blur when moving your head around is something i was not expecting - seems to be quite a bit of discussion about it on the varjo discord.
Is this something that you just get used to?

wickfut · 19 Dec 2023 at 01:15

kevman said:
The motion blur when moving your head around is something i was not expecting - seems to be quite a bit of discussion about it on the varjo discord.
Is this something that you just get used to?

I don't notice it at all. Must be something with variance in each headset?
Are you sure it isn't something which just occurs when you turn the headset on from cold? My reverb has severe blur from cold but it fades after about 5 minutes.

kevman · 19 Dec 2023 at 08:22

wickfut said:
I don't notice it at all. Must be something with variance in each headset?
Are you sure it isn't something which just occurs when you turn the headset on from cold? My reverb has severe blur from cold but it fades after about 5 minutes.

I think it is something that i am sensitive to. When you move your head and focus on the same point it blurs ever so slightly - predominanlty text. I think part of the issue the clarity is so high.

Having tried my index again a similar thing happens but i do not think i noticed it as the clarity outside the centre is quite bad that i must have been moving my head and eyes all the time. I think it is something i will get used to.

Edit apparently varjo have confirmed it is a limitation of the screens and there is no fix incoming.

Ps can you move the desktop display in varjo home- i could not see a view reset

wickfut · 19 Dec 2023 at 11:52

there's a button on the headset which allows you to lock the desktop to wherever you want.

kevman · 19 Dec 2023 at 16:57

wickfut said:
there's a button on the headset which allows you to lock the desktop to wherever you want.

Thanks finally found this lying in plain site!

ImMrChris · 3 Jan 2024 at 16:10

it's very quiet in here! everyone happy with their Aeros?

im enjoying mine more and more since dialling it in i got a HOTAS for chrimbo too so ive been playing a bit of DCS and microsoft flight simulator flying around it's pretty amazing in the Aero

sgavan · 3 Jan 2024 at 16:17

I'm still very happy with mine, not had any issues, some software\games but these are only minor issues likely down to updates etc. The only slightly negative thing is sometimes some stutter or jitter but not sure what this is related to, probably game performance